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« on: November 12, 2007, 11:43:18 AM »

Still looking around, kicking ideas for next season.  Had a quick question, what are the regulations regarding what you can or can not ride on an ATV trail?  Thinking of possible going the Rhino or Ranger route, concerned on width standards...also weight?

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2007, 01:47:21 PM »

NY.ATV regulations.


An all-terrain vehicle (ATV) is any self-propelled vehicle with two or more wheels that is manufactured for sale to be used primarily off-highway or in off-road competitions, and that is no wider than 70 inches and weighs no more than 1,000 pounds. This does not include vehicles manufactured for off-highway use and designed exclusively for travel on snow or ice, and supported by one or more skis, belts or cleats that utilize an endless belt tread. Those vehicles, which include snowmobiles, are subject to other laws and regulations.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 03:51:39 PM »

NY.ATV regulations.


An all-terrain vehicle (ATV) is any self-propelled vehicle with two or more wheels that is manufactured for sale to be used primarily off-highway or in off-road competitions, and that is no wider than 70 inches and weighs no more than 1,000 pounds. This does not include vehicles manufactured for off-highway use and designed exclusively for travel on snow or ice, and supported by one or more skis, belts or cleats that utilize an endless belt tread. Those vehicles, which include snowmobiles, are subject to other laws and regulations.


Good info thanks, so the old ATC's are allowed on the trails also then?  Seems like the Rhino & Ranger's are good to go then, unless they weigh more than 1000lbs.  I may lean that way...
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 05:53:10 PM »

NY.ATV regulations.

An all-terrain vehicle (ATV) is any self-propelled vehicle with two or more wheels that is manufactured for sale to be used primarily off-highway or in off-road competitions, and that is no wider than 70 inches and weighs no more than 1,000 pounds. This does not include vehicles manufactured for off-highway use and designed exclusively for travel on snow or ice, and supported by one or more skis, belts or cleats that utilize an endless belt tread. Those vehicles, which include snowmobiles, are subject to other laws and regulations.

Did you find this on-line? If you did can you provide a link to this?

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 09:22:12 PM »

Are you sure you want a side by side?
Do you plan on using it around camp as a utility vehicle also? I could see wanting it for that and riding.
But... if your gonna get into "trail" riding vs seasonal road riding I would go with a utility quad.
About the only side by side I would want for "trail" riding would be the Polaris (yes I said Polaris) Ranger RZR, and I would imagine by next summer Cat and Kawasaki will have similar versions of this new side by side market segment.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 09:22:46 PM »

Did you find this on-line? If you did can you provide a link to this?

Thanks in advance!

Yes I found that info online.
I dont see the big deal for the link but if thats the rules and  you need one, thats fine by me.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c29.htm
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 09:24:12 PM »

Did you find this on-line? If you did can you provide a link to this?

Thanks in advance!

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmvfaqs.htm#ATVs
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 10:51:38 PM »

Yes I found that info online.
I dont see the big deal for the link but if thats the rules and  you need one, thats fine by me.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c29.htm

No rule, I was just looking fro more info for my own reasons. Thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 07:24:06 AM »

At this time the Polaris RZR is the only side X side that is less than 1000 lbs. I got a RZR for my wife and I to trail ride. We LOVE it. We didn't get rid of our ATVs because none of the s X s  are allowed on the ATV trails in Quebec and that is where we do 80% of our riding. If they did legalize them for the trails in Quebec I'd concider getting a second RZR.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 08:36:02 AM »

Yes I found that info online.
I dont see the big deal for the link but if thats the rules and  you need one, thats fine by me.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c29.htm

There are no rules about posting links...
Someone just looking for more information...
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 08:42:07 AM »

At this time the Polaris RZR is the only side X side that is less than 1000 lbs. I got a RZR for my wife and I to trail ride. We LOVE it. We didn't get rid of our ATVs because none of the s X s  are allowed on the ATV trails in Quebec and that is where we do 80% of our riding. If they did legalize them for the trails in Quebec I'd concider getting a second RZR.

Please share more information on both subjects... RZR, how is it with 2 adults? fit on most trails? handling?

What about your Quebec riding experience? where and how often do you go? what type of miles do you get in each time? what time of year do you go?
I was driving through part of Quebec over the weekend, it sure looks like there would be plenty of trails out there....
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 10:42:20 AM »

As you can see in my pic both my wife and I fit in the RZR OK. Not a lot of room to spare but VERY comfortable. I now have it fully enclosed with a Soft Cab and also a heater. Still plenty of room and WARM. As far as trail fit it is actually 4" narrower than my Brute Force. It is 50" wide so it fits the trails with no problem. It handles and rides like a dream. A LOT of fun to drive and when we do the poker runs I now have a DD Beer Me.

We have been riding the ATV trails in Quebec for over 6 years now. Not sure how many miles of trails they now have but at one point they had over 11,000 miles of ATV trails in Quebec. A few years ago we did what they call a mega ride in Quebec and my wife and I did over 1,000 miles in 5 days and went to the northern most city in Quebec, Chibougamau. Most of our day trips are 50 to 150 miles. The winter is the best time to go. They groom all their trails and there are more open trails closer to my home. In the summer time a lot of the trails south of the St. Lawrence are closed because the farmers have crops growing and don't open their land till there is at least 4" of snow to cover ground. I hope there open the trails up there to the Side X Sides but at this time they say NO because the machine has to have a set of handle bars and straddle the motor to be classified as an ATV to be allowed on their trails system.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 10:58:34 AM »

Great info.
Thanks for posting it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 08:34:55 PM »

PJ,

When I have posted up on the great riding in Canada, it has been krabid who has shown me all the trails.  If we want to get a nyriders group ride going in Canada, we could ask for no one better to lead us on a great ride!

P.S...  krabid, sent a fellow from TX your way today.  Looking for a rear shock rebuild...  FYI.. in case he gets ahold of you.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 08:40:15 PM »

PJ,

When I have posted up on the great riding in Canada, it has been krabid who has shown me all the trails.  If we want to get a nyriders group ride going in Canada, we could ask for no one better to lead us on a great ride!

P.S...  krabid, sent a fellow from TX your way today.  Looking for a rear shock rebuild...  FYI.. in case he gets ahold of you.

Oh...
Winter ride or spring ride?
If I am going to Quebec in the winter it will be really hard for me not to bring my sled if there is enough snow...

Krabid,
Do you do shocks?
I am going to have 4 out of my Renegade that need to be done in the next couple of weeks.
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